I know a lot of guys that went thru the Ultra mag thing, and few if any could really make it group as well as they wanted. I prefer the .300 Win.Mag. 3000 - 3050 is going to be top end with other powders. Get a stainless model rifle. In the Federal Vital-Shok, 6.5 Creedmor works out to $1.72/round, while .300 Win Mag comes out to $2.40/round. If the Ultra mag was a great round we'd see it in use at the 1000 yard meets. It just depends. Go with the Remington RUM, if the other two do not shoot, your pretty much screwed as far as rebuilding. Still my choice would be none of the above! Mag. 6. is very impressive. Joined Dec 30, 2014 Messages 3,617. For me it would. Although the case design of the Weatherby was entirely different from the .300 H&H, enabling head spacing at the shoulder, Weatherby retained the belt at the case head, resulting in a very successful marketing ploy. If i had to choice i would still pick the 30-06 because it had little recoil compared to the other 2 and still has the power to kill moose out to extended ranges. Showing 1–16 of 24 results ... Mark V® Ultra Lightweight. point out on the lip of the case. I'd imagine my 230 Berger Norma load is somewhere closer to 120 fps and 10 grains more powder than a WM with same bullet and powder. my choice would be the .300 Weatherby seven days a week and twice on Sunday. Thanks. It was made for short action rifles in hunting conditions, to make a rifle shorter and handier, as well as lighter. The .300 Win Mag can shoot heavier bullets at a much higher velocity than the .308 (~400fps faster with the same weight bullet). They all are pretty good with sub 200 grain bullets, but when you start talking 220 grain and bigger bullets the Weatherby moves up to another level. Another vote for the RUM....Go with the non-belted case, just seems a bit more 21st century. Which of these calibers would be the better round? So, the .300 Win Mag is much more powerful, has a much flatter trajectory, and has significantly more recoil than the .308. My Son in law shoots a Custom 300 win.and 215 bergers . With a variety of bullets from most of the prominent mfg's in weights including, 140, 150, 160, 168, 180 and now 195. I was going to rebarrel the RUM but it shoots .5 MOA at 200yds so why change it. As you can see, 6.5 Creedmoor is generally much cheaper than .300 Win Mag. they are the 300 Ultra Mag, 300 Weatherby and the 300 WSM. The .300 Ultra has a rebated rim that allows the body of the case to be fatter than the rim, which is the same size as the rim on the .300 Winchester Magnum and … Killing Elk out to 1000 yards with a 300 WM, Day pack with ability to pack animal out/convert to backcountry backpack, I think I just built my favorite hunting rifle. When comparing a standard .300 WSM vs .300 Win Mag, it was proved that the .300 win magnum had a higher recoil but could deliver bullets at a very high speed. Long range hunters and experienced hunters taking Elk and Moose at longer ranges may appreciate and require the better terminal performance of the 300 Win Mag. Head to Head: .300 Win. Base of the Bluemountains aka Gods Country, http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f25/nib-ss-sub-moa-weatherby-vanguard-300-wby-mag-110594/, Killing Elk out to 1000 yards with a 300 WM, Day pack with ability to pack animal out/convert to backcountry backpack, I think I just built my favorite hunting rifle. 700 with HS 2000 stock. The parent cartridge of .300 Win Mag is .375 H&H Magnum. IDO » Community » Forums » Hunting Forums » Shooter’s Test Bench ».300 Win Mag vs 300 Weatherby Mag.300 Win Mag vs 300 Weatherby Mag. Also have a Rem. JavaScript is disabled. You are using an out of date browser. I have loaded for both the WSM and RUM. Mag. Of the 3 rifles, the Sendero is definitely the best LR platform. Why? Nothing wrong at all with the 300 Wby, 300 Ackley or 300 Jarrett but I think he is looking to get into a factory rifle first so that eliminates all but the 300 Wby. I have shot all three and a Browning for LR use wouldn't make "my" list of consideration. The .300 WBY brass is a go from the start. Participant. * .300 Win mag will do 2900fps using 68.6 grains of 4831 and a 25" barrel * .300 WBY mag will do 3100 fps using 75.7 grains of 4831 in a 26" barrel * .300 Ultra mag will do 3200 fps using 92.3 grains of H1000 and a 26" barrel * 30/.378 will do 3200 using 114 grains of 8700 an a 28" barrel I have seen a moose that has been killed at 500 yards. The .300 Win mag would be the cheapest of the bunch to get into as cases are cheaper. Home / Product Caliber / 300 Win. I wouldn't consider any of the three, but head strait to a .300 WBY mag, or a .300 Ackley. The round is popular for both big game hunting and long range shooting. Maybe if you had a 34" barrel you might pick up 250 to 300fps, but you'll also need a number one gun bearer to carry that thing! The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .300 Weatherby Magnum vs .300 WSM Winchester Short Magnum ammo rounds. I really love my 300 win(long) in my browning a-bolt, but the rum has around a 10% edge in raw power and if you can learn the rifle well enough it'll punch 1" groups at 200 yards all day in a non-braked sporter. While I don’t have access to the official sales numbers, according to Weatherby, Roy’s .300 Weatherby Magnum is the most popular of the bunch. 300 Win Mag Specs. It’s got class, panache, and performance in spades, and is actually the oldest veteran in this group. It w… Same could be said of the .300WSM. You can not go wrong with any of them. and 13% more capacity than the .300 Weatherby Mag. Barrel wise the Weatherby and it's clones are by far the best. The .300 Weatherby Magnum is a fast, hard-hitting cartridge, driving a 180-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 3250 fps, for over 4,000 ft.-lbs. The .300 Ackley, .300 Jarrett, and even the Baer are all WBY mag clones in the end. If you have never, or just occasionally, shot any one of the 'pound o' powder' burnin' 300 mags(300 WBY, 300 WIN, 300 Ultra Mag) you are in for a real treat. I have a sendero II in 7mm rem. It was for this reason that I purchased the Weatherby Mark V 6.5-300. Not the best brass available but you can work with it. 300 ? and I love it. Meaning a short throat life. Selection of .300 Win.Mag. 30 gr more powder for an additional 200 FPS. I’d go with the .300 Wby as a fellow handloader you know you can taylor a load to fit your needs. 300 Ultra Mag vs 300 Win Mag. Easy enough to do. You are using an out of date browser. Mag. A bag of .300 Win.MAG IS 40 BUCKS but you only get a box of 20 for that in the Weatherby. My wife shoots a 300 ultra lss ( no brake ) and 180 Coreloks . have long felt that the order should be .300WSM, .308 Norma mag, and then the .300 WBY mag. .30-06 is an extremely old round. You must log in or register to reply here. I'll throw the .300 WSM in for good measure. What we see is very diminishing returns for as much as 33% more powder in the big cased mags. When I decided to get a .300 I thought it would be a Win. 300 Win Mag vs 308. It was originally introduced in 1906, and was originally used in the United States Army. However, it is also worth mentioning that there are a much greater number of .300 Win Mag ammunition choices available. The .300 Winchester Magnum—that belted affair based on a shortened Holland and Holland case—was released in 1963 as the last in a quartet of cartridges that redefined magnum performance to … The .300 WBY, .300 Ackley mag, or the Jarrett are the best in case design, but starting to show some serious overbore unless you move up to the 220 thru 250 grain bullets and a 28" barrel. The sendero will do the same. Still if your somebody like Dan Lilja (a fine gentleman I might add) this means little. History Based on the .300 H&H case blown out to maximum capacity, the .300 Weatherby Magnum was introduced by Roy Weatherby in 1944. It has the accuracy of the 6.5 Creedmoor and the power of the 300 Win Mag… a nice combination! Mag. Of all these rounds it's common knowledge that the Norma mag thru the .300 WBY are by far the most accurate in very long distance shooting. Most shooting would be no longer that 700 yards. Velocity Still you could make Norma cases out of Win mag brass! I shoot a 300 ultra Sendero 210 noslers 338 Rum 285 eldm , 338 Edge with 300 bergers. The .300 Ultra Mag is known for lots of power along with minimal bullet drop and wind drift at extended range. I am kicking around the idea of a long range rifle in a Browning X-Bolt Long Range Hunter carbon fiber in 300 Win or Remington Sendero II in 300 Rum or a 30-378 Weatherby in a Mark V Carbon fiber. Cost of ammo is quite a bit cheaper. That power comes at the expense of lots of recoil though. Thanks for the great side-by-side comparison, David. With the advent of newer slower burning powders, the 300 win, 300 wby and 300 rum really aren't that far apart with the slight edge going to the 300 rum with very heavy bullets. The .300 Win Mag rounds have an average of 80.0lb/f.s while the .300 Win Mag has an average of 77.12lb/f.s. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … The .300 WSM is fast, along the lines of the .300H&H, maybe a tad faster. 300.wsm vs. 300 rem ultra mag. That being said, I have a rum that is a semi custom gun with a factory tube and it is very easy to load for and easy to shoot. I also read some where that the .300 Win. August 9, 2017 at 12:06 am #1709134. 3,814 Posts . The Contestants. All three are awesome rounds in their own right. Using a fat, 404 Jeffery case 2.850" long with the 30-degree shoulder pushed well forward, Remington engineers were able to beat the case capacity of the 300 Wby. More. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. dont own a 30-378 but do own a 300 ultra, 300 win, 300wsm a 300 h&h and a 300 wby and out of the 5 if i had to pick a favorite it would be the 300 wby mag. vs. .300 WSM. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Mag 300 Win. I am looking for a powerfull, flat shooting rifle that will be able to cover a variety of situations and wild game. Its in 300RUM, I love it as well. i own one each 300win 300 wsm, 300 wby and 300 ultra and if i could keep only one it would be the 300wby. Lots of recoil, if that is a factor for you, lots of noise, lots of cost... and the majority of people shooting these big 300's don't 'really' need one. for ballistics wise the 300. weatherby mag out performs them, then the 300. win mag and then the 30-06. If You want/have a short action the WSM would be the way to go. The difference between the two averages remains just about constant as the rounds move downrange to the 500-yard mark where the averages for the WM and WSM are 58.2lb/f.s and 22.3lb/f.s respectively. A. is preference and range. Accuracey wise, the .300WSM is very good, but so are the Ackley, Jarrett, and WBY mags. JavaScript is disabled. Rated 4.98 out of 5 $ 2,300.00 – $ 2,500.00 Select options; ... Weatherby Customer Service representatives are available to assist you: Monday through Friday The .300 Win Mag might be inferior in performance and power to the .300 Weatherby Magnum and Remington Ultra Magnum, but it is still certainly capable of bringing down elk, moose, bear, and bighorn sheep. Remington produced the 300 Win Mag in 1999 and this is also the first cartridge of the 30-caliber now what we see here is that when the barrel lengths are somewhat close to being equal the only thing that's happening is making Hogdons and AA richer! Mag. Mag. .300 Weatherby Magnum vs. Hornady .300 PRC. Plus they have by far the best shoulder neck design (throw the WSM in that mix as well). Discussion Starter • #1 • May 3, 2012. my question is other than shooting a larger caliber bullet what dose the 8mm offer over the 300? Mostly for sheep, deer and elk. It is my little gun and usually gets the call for antelope, but my 338 rum is my go to gun and the 300 rum is my backup. 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